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Secular Café: This sucks

Secular Café Discuss philosophical concepts and moral issues.

This sucks Jun 9th 2012, 17:04 I'm no fan of Fire-arms, but I think this sucks- http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/...-photos-by-aoc There is no hint of anything illeagal and, for God sake, Shooting is an Olympic sport!! Would the same have happened to two Olympic Shooters posing holing a pair of speedos??

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Secular Café: Why are people becoming evermore selfish as my clock ticks?

Secular Café Discuss philosophical concepts and moral issues.

Why are people becoming evermore selfish as my clock ticks? Jun 7th 2012, 00:07 Quote: I was in a coma for 25 years and woke up a year ago. I cant believe whats happened to everybody? We didnt have all these gadgets some are nice but it scared me at first but im most sad about all the people they seem so bitter so cold so sad. What happened to good music? I thought i was listening to a comedy hour the first time i heard the radio. Lady Gaga is madonna, All these weird panty waist bands are simply horrible. What happened to Def Leppard. Dokken, all the heart and songs that made you feel.good all day. Everyone seems like a pissed off monkey tapping on little telephones and showing no compassion and love. I thought about going back.into.a permanent coma but I still can not find the strength to do it. Please let me know you good people are out there. Wasn't my question but answer: Quote: Morals are taught whereas selfishness is a survival trait. Which do you think will win? As our population increases primarily because of morals (It is a sin to kill) nature has built in mechanisms to promote violence (selfishness)to balance out things. Please disregard the coma part and tell me does this have a corralation with the 7 billion people and shortage of resources? Where are the morals of our world? Why did our ego take over? Right now every women and man wants to graduate from university, get a well paying job and lock him/herself up in a big home- then start a family. I can see that we are overmaterialistic and verging on to living a dynamic lifestyle. I know that Gandhi said "one who hates society hates himself" but really there is a problem here. Its like a new apparition came and told everyone to screw helping others before ourselves (unless we can benefit from them) and advertise yourselve so you can make your friends jealous. Are we really verging into a more hateful world?

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Secular Café: Evil and Atheism.

Secular Café Discuss philosophical concepts and moral issues.

Evil and Atheism. Jun 1st 2012, 08:04 Folks, For Christians, the word 'evil' has a specific meaning, fitting with a world view of 'the fall'. Evil is in the world, either as metaphysical evil (non human events such as plagues, floods) and human evil (human actions influenced or instigated by the devil and/or lesser demons). This simple narrative provides the Christian with a basis for recognising and dealing with evil as they see it. In the famous movie 'The Exorcist" the old priest (played by Max Von Siddow) has a line which must be memorable in the minds of believers who know the film. He is being told by a younger priest that he thinks the child is inhabited by several personalities, referring maybe to Freudian theory. The old priest says "There is only one." Watching the film, and having followed Regan's trip through the world of science, doctors and psychologists, we are finally shown the enemy in it's singularity. It is the Demon. The demon can present as legion, but it is only one. Whether we agree or disagree with religious dogma which drives the events in the film, we may at least allow that there is an elegant simplicity in the coming battle. For those of us who are not Christians or any kind of theists, the word 'evil' cannot stand on the definitive ground that the Christian uses. We are left with an idea of 'very bad' or 'unacceptable' which can immediately be assailed by moral relativists. 'Evil' for the Atheist is the alcohol free beer of our morality, lacking the essential ingredient of the word in the mouths of the theists. However, for some of us interested in moral philosophy there are times when we might want to use the word without dilution. We might want to say that Adolf Eichmann, Hienrich Himmler, Josef Mengele and others were evil in their intentions, their actions, and in their very bones. This is not because we want to parse their theories and actions in logic, but because we feel the presence of evil in and around them. For some of us, intellectuals or not, we simply feel it. Our reaction is not reasonable, but emotional, and in my view sometimes feeling can be the more truthful arbiter, and 'evil' is the only word to be used. Whether such men were born evil, became evil or rationalised themselves into evil acts is a moot point here. The only point is that evil is present, and that we feel it. Imagine what the world would be like if we didn't? Alex.

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